"For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them"

                                                 - 1 Thess 5:3

biblescribe
Dec 2, 2018

Daniel 2 & 7 Are Not "Parallel"

Many teach that Daniel 2 presents a 1,2,3,4a/4b sequence world empires, which has absolute NO foundation in Scripture or History. Take 2:45 for example, where the following sequence is given: Iron, Bronze, Clay, Silver, Gold = 4,3,5,2,1 = FIVE. And where this FIFTH empire of Clay/Feet is further defined as having Ten Toes, it is called a "divided kingdom". And as History supports, today we find an empire era which is subsequent to the Roman "legs of iron", in which there indeed are Three Superpowers and a United Nations. And given the December 1993. UN Chronicle [1] article, we find that a proposal that the Security Council Permanent Membership be expanded from FIVE (U.S., England, France, Russia, China) to TEN (Germany, Japan, Brazil, Nigeria, India). Thus the "divided" Feet, and the subsequent "ten" toes.

Secondly, Daniel 7 substantiates the participants of the "divided kingdom" by presenting the Lion/Eagle (U.K./U.S.), the Bear (Russia), the Leopard (actually a "Tiger" -- China), and the "dreadful beast" (United Nations).

Of course it helps to consider this premise given that the Roman Empire was never conquered, so we inherited the Roman Republic model in our respective governments: a Senate for the powerful; and a Centuriate Assembly for the commoners. But we neither send our taxes to Italy (the occupier of that ancient geography) nor do we find any consolidation of Ten Nations in the EU.


[1] “The Road To Reform: Towards A New Clarity,” U.N. Chronicle, UMI, Vol. 30, Issue 4, December 1993, pp. 45-46

11 comments
biblescribe
Dec 2, 2018

... And If I might suggest, -- if the simple concepts are incorrect, the difficult concepts will be obtainable, including what/who is Mystery Babylon among others ...

3angelsspeak
Dec 2, 2018

Hello brother biblescribe, nice to meet you here. This website is very new. So great to meet you here. Interestng concept you provide there. It is interesting however that the BEAST of Daniel match up with historical empires dont't you think?

3angelsspeak
Dec 2, 2018

I see MYSTERY BABYLON as defined by the scriptures as apostate christianity. This is clear as you study the scriptures and let the scriptures interpret themselves.

biblescribe
Feb 5, 2019

Regarding "Mystery Babylon", it helps to grasp the ORIGINAL "Babylon", which was the first kingdom to employ the "metropolis" model, which all subsequent empires have followed, -- from Babylon, to ~Persia; to ~Rome; to ~Athens; to ~Paris; to ~London; to ~NYC; and soon to ~Jerusalem. Even the creators of Superman recognized this when they named NYC "Metropolis" and of course the ~newspaper "The Daily Planet". But the church is not as adept as the creators of a comic strip. (Please recall that NYC wanted to regulate the ounces of sugary carbonated beverage dispensed.)

It's this "metropolis" model which Jesus will smite and replace with HIS Millennial Kingdom model.

3angelsspeak
Feb 5, 2019

Hi Biblescribe, nice to see you.


It is interesting looking at bible prophecy. The reason there is so many different interpretations of it is because people try to put their own private interpretation on it which is against the scriptures.

Jesus told us before hand this would happen in the end days in MATTHEW 24:24. Also, we read in 2 PETER 1:20 [20], Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. The reason there is so many different interpretations of phrophecy is that most people try to put their own private interpretation of the scriptures instead of letting God's WORD interpret itself.


Looking at the example here of MYSTERY, BABYLON from Revelation 17:5 we read...


REVELATION 17:5 [5] And on HER forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.


The GREEK word used here for Babylon is Βαβυλών Babulōn meaning Tyranny.

So from the scriptures here we see that MYSTERY BABYLON represents a WOMAN who is a HARLOT and the MOTHER of HARLOTS.


According to God's WORD a PURE WOMEN in bible prophecy represents God's FAITHFUL people * Jeremiah 6:2; 2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 5:23-27; Revelation 12:1-7. A HARLOT or UNFAITHFUL WOMAN represents those who have turned away from God * Ezekiel. 16:15-58; 23:2-21; Hoses. 2:5; 3:1; Revelation 17:1-5.


If the scriptures interpret the scriptures there can only be one interpretation of what MYSTERY BABYLON represents.


God bless.



biblescribe
Feb 5, 2019

... and this homepage has NOTHING in common with what Scripture says

3angelsspeak
Feb 5, 2019Edited: Feb 5, 2019

Of course it does. It is God's Word. The MARK of the BEAST, END DAY EVENTS, the ANTICHRIST come from the scriptures all through the old and new testament scriptures which are shown all through this linked pages and are described specifically in the books of DANIEL and REVELATION.

Dan Henry
Jul 19, 2020

The first kingdom to 'rule the world' was Babylon. This means the current nations of today CANNOT be the four beasts, because the fourth beast has to be the fourth kingdom to rule the world since Babylon. It is impossible to apply this to the nations of today. So we just need to go from Babylon to find out who was the 'fourth kingdom upon the earth.' And who was the fourth? ROME!

Also make note that these kingdoms do not rule at the same time. Which is why the beasts are said to be 'the FIRST ... the FOURTH' etc. They are consecutive kingdoms. Just as God showed in Daniel 2.

Admin
Jul 19, 2020

What about with a historical view point? With a historical viewpoint it fits 100% perfectly


3angelsspeak
Jul 19, 2020

Agreed, history proves Daniel and the world kingdoms. It is based on a timeline. Today we are at the feet of iron and of clay

Dan Henry
Jul 19, 2020

I agree. Daniel 7 has to be looked at from a historical standpoint. This means that we are in the stage of the iron and clay.

 

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